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Podcast #11: Kiambu Dickerson Interview

Kiambu Dickerson NY Orthopaedic massageNY-based Orthopedic Massage Therapist, Kiambu Dickerson uses a combination of methods that he’s learned from Tom Myers, James Waslaski, Erik Dalton, Jerry Hesch, David Weinstock, and Gary Ward (internationally recognized pain resolution and structural alignment experts). He locates the cause of the pain rather than the symptoms of it. We talk about his teachers, the modalities he uses, internal martial arts and oh yeah, he also raps in a group called Get Open! You can listen to their song called “The Weekend” at the bottom of the page.

Conversation Highlights:

  • What Orthodedic Massage Therapy is and how it deals with pain and movement
  • Why he decided to become an OMT
  • How he applies the methods of Tom Myers (Anatomy Trains), Erik Dalton (Myoskeletal Alignment Techniques), James Waslasky (Orthopedic Massage) Jerry Hesch (Hesch Institute)
  • How he uses David Weinstock’s Neurokinetic Therapy muscle testing method
  • How he applies Gary Ward’s Anatomy in Motion Method – how you can work the feet to fix the back. and how it looks at the body from the eccentric deceleration model
  • The constant interplay between stability and mobility
  • How “proprioception is like a second brain in that it governs how we move.”
  • Why we need to stop telling kids to be still (this is something I am working on!)
  • His extensive internal martial arts training and practice
  • And finally his career as a rap artist! He  performs in a group called Get Open (Track below)

Kiambu Dickerson


Kiambu Dickerson

Tom Myers/ Anatomy Trains

Erik Dalton/Freedom From Pain Institute

Jerry Hesch/Hesch Institute

James Waslaski/Orthopedic Massage

Gary Ward/Anatomy in Motion

David Weinstock/Neurokinetic Therapy

The Weekend by Get Open

Body Teaser:

[The body teasers play off of the idea of brain teasers. The goal is to get us thinking about how we move and ultimately to improve how we move.] I’ve got two suggestions for this Body Teaser: Listen to The Weekend by Get Open and get your dance on. OR you can explore the concept of regional interdependence aka it’s all connected. Locate a common recurring site of pain or discomfort in the body and then explore what else it could be connected to. For assistance you can look up myofascial lines such as Tom Myers Anatomy Trains and follow the lines.  Share your thoughts and findings in the comments below!


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3 Responses to Podcast #11: Kiambu Dickerson Interview

  1. Joe Kistner October 21, 2014 at 1:00 PM #

    Thanks Ariana, I have enjoyed listening to your podcasts. Kiambu, I honor your process and journey. I would like to share some information on pain with you.

    I have also discovered that the muscles in the feet ( and what you wear on your feet) are key to clearing compensation patterns up the body.


    Joe Kistner

  2. Kiambu Dickerson October 22, 2014 at 10:15 AM #

    Thank you very much for this information Joe. I love growing and learning more. I may have been a little unclear about how I successfully address pain. I address pain in the body by addressing musculoskeletal issues. As a massage therapist my focus has always been on structural dysfunction because that is well within my scope of practice. Massage therapists are not legally allowed to specifically make claims about pain and advertise as pain relief because pain management according to the American Medical Association is technically only addressed by doctors (physical therapy is the manual arm of the AMA) and drugs. This is a very soft law but I always adhere to specific semantics when addressing pain and joint fixations so as to stay within my scope of practice. I use other modalities such as breath work and some receptor resets to address the nervous system directly but still they are not specifically aimed at the nociceptors. Arianna asked me what I wanted to study next, I was talking about studying a specific system that aims at nociceptors and turns off nociception via the nervous system and not mechanically releasing joint fixations and muscle facilitation or myofascial issues. I already do that via resetting proprioceptors (specifically mexhanoreceptors and joint receptors) throughout the myofascial network.. When I mentioned learning a system that specifically addresses pain by addressing the nociceptors in the body I’m talking about deals with more of a “software” issue than a mechanical. You can’t always get someone out of pain even if you’re the most thorough manual therapist. In case I didn’t toot my own horn enough in the interview, I get on average 90% of everyone sent to me pain free via manual therapy. Sometimes it’s a long road but usually it’s within one to four sessions. I get a lot of people who make multiple appointments and after the first session canceled the rest because they think they’re fine. Most people don’t care so much about alignment and function (they think it’s not important) unless they come to you specifically for that. Most people just want to be out of pain and don’t care if it hurts them in the process or they have to have surgery and get cut open. Some people will even fly to distant lands and pay money to spiritual healers and witch doctors all to be out of pain. Most of the people I get were in chronic pain for years and have seen MD’s chiropractors and physical therapists, may or may not have had surgery, acupuncture, you name it, and they still have a pain issue that I help them to resolve. Learning more about nociception and how to turn it off Manually is huge if you treat people in pain. I have focused on releasing pain from the body by studying manual therapy with some of the most progressive minds in the field over the last 15 years and have always been led to the next step in my journey. I still have more to learn in manual therapy and will continue to study, however what I’m talking about studying in terms of pain is a different approach. Again, thank you for the information Joe I appreciate it. You are welcome to come and experience my work.

  3. Kiambu Dickerson October 22, 2014 at 10:18 AM #

    And in terms of the feet, I love working the feet. People come in with flat feet and leave with arches all the time. People come in walking on the outside of their feet and leave feeling more grounded because I pay attention to the feet and their importance. Your base of support has everything to do with above as anyone who’s ever built a building will tell you. This is why I mentioned regional interdependence and the story about how my friends back pain was relieved by working his feet.

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